Martian 3 Build

@SimonDale @jpmreece @GVG_Air - Following on from comments in

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The Martin 3 takes shape pic 1… And BEFORE anyone says, the props are on the wrong place or this is wrong, I likely know about it. I’m honest enough to say if someone spots something that is wrong, like the props are likely in the wrong places. They were just put on to test they fit, both the shaft and the size of the prop. As you can see they do!

Also the electronics are not installed, well not all anyway, those that are installed are not connected - pic 2

Pic 1

Pic 2

There will be further updates as time and work on this one permits…

As always constructive criticism and feedback is welcome, but be gentle…

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Looking forward to it.
The updates - not the criticism.

I love seeing builds taking shape.

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Off to a good start I think :smiley:

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Yep, good progress, but I have a question about the wires for the motors…

they’re too long, but do cut them shorter or wrap/cable tie them?

I can see pros and cons, like leaving the longer to allow for future maintenance, but cutting them makes for a tidier build…

I’d like to hear some of your thoughts…

@SimonDale @GVG_Air @jpmreece @Westbury

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Apparently the impact on aerodynamics is negligible at drone speeds so all I can think of is snagging risk if you end up in the thickets.

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Thanks GVG_Air, yes, I didn’t think of that so I think I’ll look at shortening them, not completely but enough to reduce the snaggability (if that’s a word)!

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So now I have an issue, carefully connected the motors to the ESC/stack and took this pic…

Connected BetaFlight and checked everything looked ok, it did.

So I disconnected BF and connected a PSU, set to 6S/22.2volts max 10Amps. Reconnected to BF and tested the first motor and got SMOKE from the motor being tested!!!

I wasn’t aware these came with smoke trails? on checking, they don’t!

What would cause this problem?

I’ve checked for shorts and other issues, but only the motor being tested smokes, I’ve only tested two motors for very short period.

HELP!

UPDATE - Sorted! The motor mounting screws are too long and were pinching the wire. Having spotted and removed offending screws, smoke got away! Now to find some shorter screws…

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@SimonDale @GVG_Air @jpmreece @Westbury

Hi again all, another update after the busy time over Christmas and new year is out of the way…

I’ve now sorted out the issues with the RX not connecting, it was the wrong UART/port enabled, although I tried all of them at some time. Still it’s working now. I can arm and the craft responds to the RC, but not quite as expect.

Upon testing, it wouldn’t even get off the ground, now I don’t know what changed as I managed a short hover at one point.

So PROPS OFF! and on the bench connected to battery and BetaFlight - I can see the motors are not synchronised and go up to high revs and don’t come down… I’ve applied one of the latest Pre-set configs and re-tested, no change.

Any Ideas guys as to the cause/fix please

TIA

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Sounds like the throttle needs calibrating, props off, put throttle stick to max, connect battery esc plays tune, lower throttle…test

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Thanks mate, I’ll give it a try later…

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That is only of any use when using PWM to control the motors, which is very unlikely here. It’s probably using DSHOT300 if I had to guess.

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How exactly are you trying to test the motors? Unless done correctly (using the motor sliders in Betaflight configurator after confirming props off) the quad will behave weirdly. If it’s expecting to “feel” thrust from a motor -but doesn’t because it doesn’t have a prop on- it will keep spooling the motor up trying to generate thrust. Since that will never happen, it’ll hit max rpm and stay there.

Reading up a little… I have some bad news for you :grimacing:

That motor you put too long screws in, that smoke came out of? 99% chance that motor is dead. The screw end has very probably severed and shorted some of the windings of the motor. Those copper windings have enamel insulation, so the only way you get smoke out is if you broke that insulation. There’s a nonzero chance the FETs for that phase of the motor on that ESC got fragged at the same time too. :cry:

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Thanks for the reply and good news @cyberFluke :smiling_face_with_tear:

That makes sense though, it also explains the erratic behaviour. If I can Identify the fubar’d ones I’ll bin them, and put it down to experience! Isn’t learning fun?!

I’ll change the motors - What size would be most suited to a 5"

As always, many thanks to all who replied… It’s appreciated!

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2207 / 2306, around the 1800kV mark for 6s, 2400kV for 4s.

If you’re anywhere near Sheffield, I’m happy to actually sit with you and guide you through this if you want. I’ve probably got some motors somewhere you can have on the cheap to get you flying too.

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Like you I’m guessing too, now though he has two alternatives to try… :thinking:

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Hi mate, thanks for the offer, but I’m nowhere close to Sheffield. I’ve put that one on the shelf for the moment, I’ll revisit in a bit.

I’ve moved to troubleshooting the 3" (or at least I think it’s a 3) I can’t get the RX to be seen by the FC! Now how hard can it be, it in bound to the RC and I see telemetry from the craft.

I’ve tried every port on the page, selecting the RX option one each in turn, then save/reboot. One thing I haven’t done is a hard reboot. So after posting this, I’m going to try…

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Gimme a photo of the FC showing the Rx wiring, and a screenshot of the Betaflight Ports tab as it is now.

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There is no RX wiring, it’s an AIO this one:

Happymodel CrazyF405HD ELRS AIO 12A Flight Controller – Unmanned Tech

The Ports page has port 2 open for the S/RX and nothing other than the default port 0 for management as it were.

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That sounds correct, as per the default settings;(https://www.happymodel.cn/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/default-port-settings.png)

With a LiPo plugged in, Radio on (and connected to the Rx), as well as usb to Betaflight config, grab me a screen shot of the betaflight receiver tab please?

I’m guessing you’ll spot something wrong so simple that it will make me laugh!

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